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	<title>Comments on: Legit, Scam or Pyramid Scheme? &#8211; Lifestyle Membership Management (LMM) aka Millenium Leisure International (MLI)</title>
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		<title>By: Moditi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moditi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone,

The presentation was damn good and powerfull. It would take someone who does not trust his best friend; siebling; colleague or family not to fall for the scam because they will use somebody very close to you to get into your pocket and the pockets of those you love the most. you will eventually be left with disgruntled family and friends you have brought into the evil MLI/LMM scam, watch out. If it sounds too good stay away from it.</description>
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<p>The presentation was damn good and powerfull. It would take someone who does not trust his best friend; siebling; colleague or family not to fall for the scam because they will use somebody very close to you to get into your pocket and the pockets of those you love the most. you will eventually be left with disgruntled family and friends you have brought into the evil MLI/LMM scam, watch out. If it sounds too good stay away from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferdi Mollentze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ferdi Mollentze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys
Me again, a littel bridy came sitting on my shoulder, telling me that the presenter of Lmm (or Freestate lifestyle something as it is called now)in Bloemfontein got to the end of his road to riches. Sars got to him and took everything. Can someone confirm this please, it will be funny to be legit if you don&#039;t pay your dues to SARS.
Nice one LMM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys<br />
Me again, a littel bridy came sitting on my shoulder, telling me that the presenter of Lmm (or Freestate lifestyle something as it is called now)in Bloemfontein got to the end of his road to riches. Sars got to him and took everything. Can someone confirm this please, it will be funny to be legit if you don&#8217;t pay your dues to SARS.<br />
Nice one LMM</p>
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		<title>By: Fraud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fraud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 13:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMM is a fraud machine to ripp u off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMM is a fraud machine to ripp u off</p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Moosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhammad Moosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 10:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys-i was ripped off by Millenium(now Lmm) in 2006-school fees i guess!
Since then ive gotten into trading and like any other business,its very hard work.
Yes you can make a 100% plus in a year but it takes massive work.
Many Network schemes promise returns in excess of 10000% per year
Network marketing and similar are not the way forward,backward,anyward-my opinion.
These businesses have negative expectations and sell products years after big businesses have taken the cream.
Lmm does not even have a real product.
The juicy part is low capital requirements,owning your own business and having time on your hands.
You would be better served by saving,learning proper business and risk techniques,proper psychology and sufficient capital to start a business(100k plus) plus at least 6 months to a year of living expenses saved</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys-i was ripped off by Millenium(now Lmm) in 2006-school fees i guess!<br />
Since then ive gotten into trading and like any other business,its very hard work.<br />
Yes you can make a 100% plus in a year but it takes massive work.<br />
Many Network schemes promise returns in excess of 10000% per year<br />
Network marketing and similar are not the way forward,backward,anyward-my opinion.<br />
These businesses have negative expectations and sell products years after big businesses have taken the cream.<br />
Lmm does not even have a real product.<br />
The juicy part is low capital requirements,owning your own business and having time on your hands.<br />
You would be better served by saving,learning proper business and risk techniques,proper psychology and sufficient capital to start a business(100k plus) plus at least 6 months to a year of living expenses saved</p>
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		<title>By: Yaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 09:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean Darren Lindgren and fredrik strÃ¶m &amp; Sofia strÃ¶m the people behind, Sean Lindgren is in a company bord in sweden with fredrik &amp; Sofia StrÃ¶m, Midskeppet ab, comp. no:556255-2843, they live at vasagatan 5a, gothenburg Sweden,//Yaca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean Darren Lindgren and fredrik strÃ¶m &amp; Sofia strÃ¶m the people behind, Sean Lindgren is in a company bord in sweden with fredrik &amp; Sofia StrÃ¶m, Midskeppet ab, comp. no:556255-2843, they live at vasagatan 5a, gothenburg Sweden,//Yaca</p>
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		<title>By: JUNAID SULAMAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JUNAID SULAMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE ALSO FALLEN VICTIM TO THE LMM RIP OFF. I LOST R13000.00 ALL IT IS, IS A PYRAMID UPSIDE DOWN. ALL THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP MAKE MILLIONS AND AS TIME GOES ON PEOPLE AT THE LATTER PART DOES NOT MAKE ANY MONEY. IT IS THE BIGGEST SCAM EVER IN S.A. IF ONLY I COULD GET HOLD OF THE DIRECTORS OR SENIOR MEMBERS. AFTER YOU SIGN UP, YOU DON&#039;T HEAR FROM THEM EVER AGAIN. PLEASE BE WEARY. DON&#039;T EVER COMMIT TO ANYTHING LIKE THIS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE ALSO FALLEN VICTIM TO THE LMM RIP OFF. I LOST R13000.00 ALL IT IS, IS A PYRAMID UPSIDE DOWN. ALL THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP MAKE MILLIONS AND AS TIME GOES ON PEOPLE AT THE LATTER PART DOES NOT MAKE ANY MONEY. IT IS THE BIGGEST SCAM EVER IN S.A. IF ONLY I COULD GET HOLD OF THE DIRECTORS OR SENIOR MEMBERS. AFTER YOU SIGN UP, YOU DON&#8217;T HEAR FROM THEM EVER AGAIN. PLEASE BE WEARY. DON&#8217;T EVER COMMIT TO ANYTHING LIKE THIS.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferdi Mollentze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ferdi Mollentze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All
Sorry Mathapelo, there is no way to get your money back. The hole Lmm deal has been dezined so nice that they can&#039;t be held responsible if &quot;your business &quot; doesn&#039;t work. You enroll into the callcentre and join the sales team for free. So what do you want back if you can&#039;t sell memberships, witch you aren&#039;t allowed to sell only refer. So if you don&#039;t know anybody and don&#039;t use the call centre, who is to blame. You most likely signed your membership contract witch you did not read on the spot. this way you wave all rights and agree to their terms. Sorry Mate I have got bad news for you. take it as school fees. If it sounds to good to bee true, it always is. 
Let me tell you my story. I became a member in 2006 as well. I live in Bloemfontein and has used the call center allot. It works just great. But that was not the reason why I got on board. I was in it for the money. I needed the cash and wiped out all my and the wife&#039;s credit cards to pay the hole amount.
At this time the so called company was in financial distress as some of the big guns defrauded this so called company. Nobody was upfront with us about this at the time and we would only find out a week later. What can you do, you don&#039;t want to hear that you have been a fool and you try to make it work. every week I was there, even considered to work for them full time. Lucky I didn&#039;t.
The promised payments didn&#039;t come on time and me and a friend started to give them all the hell they could handle. My friend didn&#039;t want to be accosiated with them anymore and asked to cancel his sales agreement. In the conversations Mr Tom Preston mentioned my name as if I wanted to cancel as well. Infact my sale agreement was cancelled as well. Remember, I needed this. I still believe the consept is great and is the way of the future, but LMM is not the company. I spoke to Chrizelle, who is my manager and was referd Mr Preston, who never answered his phone. I heard they&#039;re name has changed again and Chrizelle has got another job during the day. I wonder how they sleep at night. They lie and I can proof it. I phoned PLP ( The call centre) and asked them about the legal teams part in it all. They could not stop laughing. Plp is an SA based company and has got nothing to do with LMM. They charge the referal house or company R4000 odd to enroll members. Try it guys, phone 1023 and get the nr of PLP callcentre in Jhb.

But I wont judge them, someone will someday. If they feel that I&#039;m talking through my neck, I dare them to meet with me, I promise my tea girl makes the BEST coffee in town. I dare them to challenge me in one of their meetings. This IS true even though they will ask &quot; if only one off the bad things on the internet is true, why would they still be there.&quot; I&#039;ll  tell you, they force you with their clever talk to sign away all legal rights. 

Guys, think  before you act. really, post you concerns and I will respond. This is a challenge to Mr Preston, Chrizelle, Wayne and the current presenter in Bloemfontein to respond. I dare you to proof me wrong. Lets put the proof out there. I&#039;ve got mine!!!!
Have a nice 2009 to all.
Regards
Ferdi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All<br />
Sorry Mathapelo, there is no way to get your money back. The hole Lmm deal has been dezined so nice that they can&#8217;t be held responsible if &#8220;your business &#8221; doesn&#8217;t work. You enroll into the callcentre and join the sales team for free. So what do you want back if you can&#8217;t sell memberships, witch you aren&#8217;t allowed to sell only refer. So if you don&#8217;t know anybody and don&#8217;t use the call centre, who is to blame. You most likely signed your membership contract witch you did not read on the spot. this way you wave all rights and agree to their terms. Sorry Mate I have got bad news for you. take it as school fees. If it sounds to good to bee true, it always is.<br />
Let me tell you my story. I became a member in 2006 as well. I live in Bloemfontein and has used the call center allot. It works just great. But that was not the reason why I got on board. I was in it for the money. I needed the cash and wiped out all my and the wife&#8217;s credit cards to pay the hole amount.<br />
At this time the so called company was in financial distress as some of the big guns defrauded this so called company. Nobody was upfront with us about this at the time and we would only find out a week later. What can you do, you don&#8217;t want to hear that you have been a fool and you try to make it work. every week I was there, even considered to work for them full time. Lucky I didn&#8217;t.<br />
The promised payments didn&#8217;t come on time and me and a friend started to give them all the hell they could handle. My friend didn&#8217;t want to be accosiated with them anymore and asked to cancel his sales agreement. In the conversations Mr Tom Preston mentioned my name as if I wanted to cancel as well. Infact my sale agreement was cancelled as well. Remember, I needed this. I still believe the consept is great and is the way of the future, but LMM is not the company. I spoke to Chrizelle, who is my manager and was referd Mr Preston, who never answered his phone. I heard they&#8217;re name has changed again and Chrizelle has got another job during the day. I wonder how they sleep at night. They lie and I can proof it. I phoned PLP ( The call centre) and asked them about the legal teams part in it all. They could not stop laughing. Plp is an SA based company and has got nothing to do with LMM. They charge the referal house or company R4000 odd to enroll members. Try it guys, phone 1023 and get the nr of PLP callcentre in Jhb.</p>
<p>But I wont judge them, someone will someday. If they feel that I&#8217;m talking through my neck, I dare them to meet with me, I promise my tea girl makes the BEST coffee in town. I dare them to challenge me in one of their meetings. This IS true even though they will ask &#8221; if only one off the bad things on the internet is true, why would they still be there.&#8221; I&#8217;ll  tell you, they force you with their clever talk to sign away all legal rights. </p>
<p>Guys, think  before you act. really, post you concerns and I will respond. This is a challenge to Mr Preston, Chrizelle, Wayne and the current presenter in Bloemfontein to respond. I dare you to proof me wrong. Lets put the proof out there. I&#8217;ve got mine!!!!<br />
Have a nice 2009 to all.<br />
Regards<br />
Ferdi</p>
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		<title>By: Mathapelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathapelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I joined in April 2006 and have not been able to find people to work under me. It is not as easy as they put it in their presentations and the group leaders will not even return your call or respond to any e-mail one sends. As for the refund part of it? These people promise to be there for you 24/7 when you need them, but hey, guess what...they run. LMM does not work people...It&#039;s just a money making scheme and I think that most people who attend the presentations are paid to cheer and do all sorts of things to convice prospective investors to join, till today I do not even have a membership card and I paid the whole amount. Any advice on how to get my money back since my membership hasn&#039;t been active.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I joined in April 2006 and have not been able to find people to work under me. It is not as easy as they put it in their presentations and the group leaders will not even return your call or respond to any e-mail one sends. As for the refund part of it? These people promise to be there for you 24/7 when you need them, but hey, guess what&#8230;they run. LMM does not work people&#8230;It&#8217;s just a money making scheme and I think that most people who attend the presentations are paid to cheer and do all sorts of things to convice prospective investors to join, till today I do not even have a membership card and I paid the whole amount. Any advice on how to get my money back since my membership hasn&#8217;t been active.</p>
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		<title>By: Mbali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mbali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People should just not trust anything that they say&quot; you make money quick&quot;
LMM IS JUST A SHIT COMPANY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People should just not trust anything that they say&#8221; you make money quick&#8221;<br />
LMM IS JUST A SHIT COMPANY</p>
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		<title>By: BoobieDan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoobieDan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindgren is an incompetent muppett thats for sure.  BUT it is Fitzpatrick who calls the shots and Sean was just a fall guy - someone to blame the collapse of the deal on!  YET it is Rob and his lapdog George Singh that are behind all of these scams.

HAVE NOWT TO DO WITH ANY OF THESE POND LIFE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindgren is an incompetent muppett thats for sure.  BUT it is Fitzpatrick who calls the shots and Sean was just a fall guy &#8211; someone to blame the collapse of the deal on!  YET it is Rob and his lapdog George Singh that are behind all of these scams.</p>
<p>HAVE NOWT TO DO WITH ANY OF THESE POND LIFE!</p>
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